Vem behöver en historielektion?

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Det fanns en förbluffande god personkemi mellan Josef Stalin och Winston Churchill. I bakgrunden skymtar den amerikanske toppdiplomaten Averell Harriman.. Bild från artikel på Knut Lindelöfs blogg.

Jag har i olika artiklar diskuterat Andra Världskriget och dess bakgrund. Har då pekat på Sovjetunionens försök till att få igång en anti-krigsallians med USA, Storbritannien, Frankrike.

Stefan Lindgren återger en artikel av den kanadensiske historikern Michael Jabara Carley behandlar detta mer ingående i en mycket intressant artikel idag. Läs den!

Någon behöver en historielektion.

Michael Jabara Carley skriver efter en ingående analys av Sovjets olika kontakter och kontaktförsök med Västledare.


Någon behöver en historielektion.

Här vill jag vara mycket tydlig. Dokumenten i arkiven lämnar inga tvivel, Sovjetregeringen erbjöd kollektiv säkerhet och ömsesidig hjälp till Frankrike, Storbritannien, Polen, Rumänien och Tjeckoslovakien, till och med det fascistiska Italien, och överallt blev svaret nej, för polackernas del till och med i föraktfulla former, Polen var den stora sabotören av en kollektiv säkerhet under förspelet till kriget 1939. Det amerikanska utrikesdepartementet vägrade också förbättra relationerna till Sovjet. Hösten 1936 hade alla Sovjets ansträngningar att få fram avtal om ömsesidig hjälp misslyckats och Sovjet stod isolerat.

“Hur som helst – USA, Frankrike, Storbritannien avbröt lovande diskussioner med Sovjet. Hur kunde dessa regeringar agera så obegripligt om man betänker vd som sedan hände? Jo, skälet var att antikommunismen och sovjetofobi var starkare motiv för USAs, Frankrikes och Storbritanniens härskande eliter än deras rädsla för Nazityskland.

Tvärtom, dessa eliter sympatiserade i hög utsträckning med Hitler. Fascismen var en skyddsvall för att försvara kapitalismen, mot spridningen av kommunismen och mot ett utvidgat sovjetiskt inflytande i Europa. 1930-talets fråga var ”vem är fiende nr 1”, Nazityskland eller Sovjet?”

Vidare “Så här skrev president Roosevelt till Stalin den 4 februari 1943, dagen efter att de sista tyska styrkorna kapitulerat i Stalingrad.

”Som överbefälhavare för Förenta staternas försvarsmakt gratulerar jag er för den lysande segern vid Stalingrad som vunnits av arméerna under ert högsta kommando. De 162 dagarna av episk strid för staden som för evigt har hedrats med ert namn och det avgörande resultatet som alla amerikaner firar idag kommer att förbli ett av de stoltaste kapitlen i detta krig för folken som förenats mot nazismen och dess marionetter. Befälhavarna och kämparna för era frontarméer och de män och kvinnor som har stött dem i fabriker och på åkrarna, har kämpat gemensamt för att, inte bara täcka landets vapen med ära, utan också för att med sina exempel inspirera en ny beslutsamhet bland alla de förenade nationerna att lägga all sin energi på att åstadkomma den gemensamma fiendens slutliga nederlag och villkorslösa kapitulation.”

Eller som Churchill uttryckte det för Roosevelt ungefär samtidigt: ”Lyssna, vem är det som verkligen kämpar idag? Stalin ensam! Och se hur han kämpar …”



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  1. Intresset för andra världskriget är i stigande. Mycket av det som skrivs är vilseledande därför är det bra att Nyhetsbanken publicerar Michael Jabara Carleys utmärkta artikel. Men Carley har fel när han skriver att Stalin ”…ignorerade sin egen militära underrättelsetjänsts varning för en nazistisk invasion av Sovjetunionen. Han trodde att Hitler inte skulle vara så dum att han invaderade Sovjetunionen medan Storbritannien fortfarande var en krigförande makt. Så fel han hade.”. 
    Georgij Zjukov argumenterar i sin självbiografi att Sovjetunionen både produktionsmässigt och militärt i själva verket var bra förberedd för krig och Röda armén väsentligen var mobiliserad vid tiden för den tyska attacken. Han tillbakavisar även Chrusjtjovs saga om att Stalin blev helt psykiskt knäckt vid det tyska anfallet och var borta från ledningen i flera veckor. Stalin var i selen från första stund men Zhukov hade aldrig sett Stalin så nedstämd som då. Det är väl inte att undra på då han visste – liksom många i den sovjetiska medborgare – att nazisterna skulle föra ett fruktansvärd terroristiskt förintelsekrig. Enligt Zhukov tog Stalin miste på huvudriktningen för den tyska attacken. Stalin uppfattning var att den ha sin koncentration mot södra Sovjetunionen, genom Ukraina mot Kaukasus med oljan råmaterialrikedomarna. Det visade sig att den tyska huvudstöten riktades mot Moskva och Leningrad.
    Jan Myrdal skriver i senaste Folket i Bild/Kulturfront om den sovjetiska försvaret av Moskva och vikten av att inte sätta in de strategiska reserverna för tidigt. I det sammanhanget bör det påpekas att vikten av att Sovjet besegrade Japan 1939 då de snare försökte ockupera Mongoliet. Japan som invaderat den kinesiska provinsen Manchuriet i september 1931 den och etablerade marionett stat där. Japan började att försöka att från Manchuriet invadera Mongoliet i maj 1939. Den japanska krigshären stoppades sommaren 1939 av en kombinerad styrka ur Röda armén och mongoliska styrkor – under Zhukos ledning – som krossade Japans 6. armé i gränsstrider vid Mongoliet.  Striderna avslutades den 16 september 1939. Detta nederlag stoppade Japans framstöt i Sibirien och var huvudorsaken att den japanska statsledningen skrev på ett femårigt neutralitetsfördrag med Sovjet i Moskva den 13 april 1941 alltså bara 38 dagar innan det tyska anfallet. Sovjet behövde då inte utkämpa ett förödande tvåfrontskrig och kunde på så sätt behålla stora reserver långt i öster. Det blev avgörande för andra världskrigets förlopp.

    • Om intresset för historia från förra seklet stiger är det mycket välkommet. Mitt eget intresse väcktes av en historielärare i realskolan innan jag hunnit in i tonåren, och har inte avtagit sedan. Vad som verkligen skrämmer mig är att historien upprepas idag, nästan identiskt. Kinesiska ambassaden har flera gånger kraftfullt reagerat mot lögnerna och den grovt förfalskade bilden av Kina i svenska media, och den spridningen av lögner är en nästa exakt spridning av lögnerna i tyska media för omkring 100 år sedan, bara att bara att målet nu är en annan folkgrupp. Jag växte själv upp under det kalla kriget och minns alltför väl hur vi kraftfullt indoktrinerades med att den ”blodtörstiga Ryssen kommer” och hur man skulle sätta en kulspruta i händerna på alla kineser och skicka över dom till Sverige. Lärarna talade faktiskt ordagrant i sådana termer. Verkligheten var en annan, precis som idag.

  2. Historielektion ????

    Just nu när det händer väldigt otäcka saker i Persiska Viken?
    Varför så tysta när det är på randen att starta nytt krig i Mellanöstern mellan de två största makterna Iran och Saudi Arabien?
    Vakna Global Politics, det här är något allvarligt på gång!

    Två förödande drönarattacker mot oljeanläggningar i Saudi Arabien. Allt i stora eldhav.
    Men inga rapporter om antal döda och skadade? Är man mindre värd för man råkar jobba på ett oljeraffinaderi i Saudi Arabien?

  3. HISTORIA ÄR ATT LÄGGA PUSSEL. MAN SÄGER ATT SEGRAREN SKRIVER
    HISTORIEN OCH ATT HISTORIA ÄR DE LÖGNER VI, SEGRARNA, KOMMER
    ÖVERENS OM. HÄR ÄR YTTERLIGGARE PUSSELBITAR SOM JAG TIDIGARE
    ALDRIG HÖRT TALAS OM I MSM ELLER AV SOVJETEXPERTER. JAG KAN
    INTE BEDÖMA DESSA MEN TYCKER ATT DET ÄR VIKTIGT ATT ALLA
    FAKTA KOMMER FRAM.

    VIKTOR SUVOROV F.D. ÖVERSTE I SOVJETS MILITRA UNDERRÄTTELSETJÄNST GER EN HELT ANNAN BAKGRUNDSFÖRKLARING
    TILL HITLERS ANGREPP PÅ SOVJET, OPERATION BARABOSSA.

    The Icebreaker was first published in the early 1990s . The book created a sensation in the military, academic community in the West for its polemical content. Author , a former GRU colonel who defected to the West, known for his virulent anti-communism.

    Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, according to Suvorov, considered war as the mother of revolution. He realized than anyone else that war is won by the side which enters last and not by one who initiates it. Let enemies fight and exhaust themselves to the greatest extent possible then we would step in and reap the fruits. Stalin tried to realize Lenin’s unfinished agenda. Hitler served as a tool ( Icebreaker) to destroy Europe which Soviets later planned to seize.

    However Wehrmacht’s sweeping victory against France and Low Countries in the summer of 1940 which even confounded the expectations of German High Command knock bottom out of the strategy. Stalin desired Germans to mire down in a long drawn-out conflict in the West which did not materialize. Such a course of events would have worked to Soviet Union’s advantage.

    I have read Viktor Suvorov’s trilogy “Icebreaker, Day-M, and Last Republic” in Lithuanian translation. All of them are thought provoking and offer a challenge to all WWII historians to take another sober look at the facts. Suvorov bases his thesis on publically available sources (mostly Soviet). If his facts are confirmed, and it appears that they easily could be, then they prove that a crazy view of history is being taught younger generations. I find it hard to believe that this book is out of print (in English). They are really worth the few dollars to buy them. Serious western publishers should be interested in publishing them even if it is only for the purpose of making another point of view available to the new generation of historians and politicians. I think it is also relavant to understanding current events as well.
    P.S. Since I wrote the above review two other follow on books “Purge” and “Suicide” have been published in Lithuanian. The arguments in support of his thesis are further supported by new evidence that has since been made available. “Purge” is about Stalin’s execution of military officers just prior to WWII. Again the interpretation is based upon available sources but the conclusions are just as controversial. In the West Marshal Tuchachevsky is seen as a military genius that if listened to could have saved the USSR. In Suvorov’s book he is depicted as a brutal (to civilian populations that never would have followed him in a war to defend the homeland) military incompetant. His absence made it possible for able and less tainted officers like Zhukov to command in WWII. “Suicide” is the last book in the series and repeats a bit from the previous books. All in all amazing reading and encourages one to research the topic on one’s own. Also makes me curious to know about the language background of western sholars responsible for the popular view of WWII?. How many of the influential ones could read russian and access russian historical material about the war? How many were not duped by propaganda like the writer Bernard Shaw was when he visited the Ukraine in the 30’s and said there was no famine?

    Exposing Stalin’s Plan to Conquer Europe 
    How the Soviet Union ‘Lost’ the Second World War

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/04/exposing-stalins-plan-to-conquer-europe/

    ANTONY SUTTON VISAR HUR BÅDE SOVJET OCH TYSKLAND BYGGDES UPP MED BANKKAPITAL FRÅN VÄST. ÄVEN UNDER DET ”KALLA KRIGET”.

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    .The Soviet intent was to introduce foreign capital and skills, and the objective was to establish concessions in all sectors of the economy and thereby introduce Western techniques into the dormant postrevolutionary Russian economy. The foreign entrepreneur hoped to make a normal business profit in these operations. Three types of concessions were isolated: Type I, pure concessions; Type II, mixed concessions; Type III, technical-assistance agreements. Information was acquired onabout 70 percent of those actually placed in operation. It was found that concessions were employed within all sectors of the economy except one (furniture and fittings), although the largest single group of concessions was in raw materials development.
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    A summary statement of this assistance, irrespective of the types of concession, revealed that all sectors except one, i.e., 43 sectors of a total of 44, had received some form of concession agreement. In other words, in only one sector was there no evidence of Western technological assistance received at some point during the 1920s. The agreements were made either with dominant trusts or with larger individual plants, but as each sector at the outset comprised only a few large units bequeathed by the Tsarist
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    Overview
    Though he was a prolific author, Professor Sutton will always be remembered by his great trilogy: Wall St. and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall St. and the Rise of Hitler, and Wall St. and FDR.
    This is a trilogy describing the role of the American corporate socialists, otherwise known as the Wall Street financial elite or the Eastern Liberal Establishment, in three significant twentieth-century historical events: the 1917 Lenin-Trotsky Revolution in Russia, the 1933 election of Franklin D. Roosevelt in the United States, and the 1933 seizure of power by Adolf Hitler in Germany.
    Each of these events introduced some variant of socialism into a major country — i.e., Bolshevik socialism in Russia, New Deal socialism in the United States, and National socialism in Germany.
    Contemporary academic histories, with perhaps the sole exception of Carroll Quigley’s Tragedy And Hope, ignore this evidence. On the other hand, it is understandable that universities and research organizations, dependent on financial aid from foundations that are controlled by this same New York financial elite, would hardly want to support and to publish research on these aspects of international politics. The bravest of trustees is unlikely to bite the hand that feeds his organization.
    It is also eminently clear from the evidence in this trilogy that “public-spirited businessmen” do not journey to Washington as lobbyists and administrators in order to serve the United States. They are in Washington to serve their own profit-maximizing interests. Their purpose is not to further a competitive, free-market economy, but to manipulate a politicized regime, call it what you will, to their own advantage.
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    Stop the circle of plunder and immoral reward and elitist structures collapse. But not until a majority finds the moral courage and the internal fortitude to reject the something-for-nothing con game and replace it by voluntary associations, voluntary communes, or local rule and decentralized societies, will the killing and the plunder cease.

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